L2jFrozen - Lineage 2 Interlude Source

News and Announcements => Latest News => Topic started by: Shyla on February 02, 2017, 10:37:48 AM

Title: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Shyla on February 02, 2017, 10:37:48 AM
Hello Guys and Welcome Back to L2jFrozen Project!
Thanks to Nefer for great work to setup again the site domain and forum, but I'm very sad to hear about lost forum backup: it was a great value added for our community  :'(.
By the way, the community is the forum, not the content, so we decided together to restore the L2jFrozen Project forum in order to allow community to easy discuss each other and share useful information to solve issues whenever required or to share ideas for their server. Again, Welcome back community :)!
The major question we had before restore the forum was "How many guys still believe in Lineage 2 Interlude?"... for sure that is not an easy question to answer, we don't know how many servers are still alive in the world for Lineage 2 in general and how many are interlude as well: the game is an old game, played by PC, while the new generation just use consolle or smartphones/tablets to play... New generation doesn't know about Lineage 2 and more guys/childrens don't know about specific version, Interlude, that was a really success in the past. So what is the "public" for our work?
I think that with current pack, current content and current technology we cannot think to have the success we had in the past, so what we can do? Maybe we have to change something :), that's why this pool..

Thanks again to stay with us :), that means in the past we gave you satisfaction and we would like to do the same in the next years!

Shyla
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Nefer on February 02, 2017, 03:06:40 PM
For the people that vote on the poll please leave a comment here trying to argue their decision.

It is important that you give us more informations that will help us to take the best decision for the future of this project.

Greetings,
Nefer
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: levy on February 02, 2017, 03:10:13 PM
I think the project can come back, as long as a lot is fixed. Interlude did not die, but the administrators who are killing them shortly.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Dandilo on February 02, 2017, 09:32:30 PM
There are several alternative projects based on frozen and these projects are very high quality, the reason for this is that the DEVs of the alternative projects are working hard, you (us) are also capable of this, do not let the dream die.



Greetings,
Dân
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: exil33t on February 03, 2017, 12:06:27 PM
Hello there guys, I've been in the same position recently as I was into server administration and developement (not in the extend I can do that now) for 3 years or so. I'm now graduating computer science and I was into thinking about making a come back into Lineage II or starting game developement on my own (prolly mobile, as they tend to favour more indie game developers).
Studying briefly the current situation into Lineage I came to the conclusion that neither it's current cummunity nor possibilities for extension and financial profit will be rewarding to a degree others could for that much time invested.

Try to evaluate opinions and suggestions in from those answering point of view. Most of them will actually make positive comments and encourage you to make it back and continiue to provide a stable and custom open source environment that they can base their custom server on (not that I can judge them being bad, but they will not answer objectively).

What I would suggest you, drop Lineage II for good.
It's been my passion also for a long time, developing the world I so much loved once was the best feeling I could get, I guess you felt that too. But I think it's the time for you to move on. If you still like games and you are into game developement start another tremendously creative and fun journey of actually making a game of your own. Possibilities are endless into game developement especially for mobile games. You can get into the industry and some day make actual money that will make you do a good living, a really good living that will pay back those countless hours and lines of code you're willing to put into.

I'm really sad to say I think lineage is actually dead, it has lost all it's glow and it's gaming experience has decayed long time now. You have to do nothing but take a look at hopzone or visit some servers on your own, Lineage can't be compared even at 1/10 that what is has been like even 4-5 years ago. Especially for C6. There may be a breathing part of it that now playing at the official Lineage II Servers to chronicles that actually represents how Lineage II has to be in 2017.

I'd like to wish you good luck to everything you wanna do,
Both Shyla and Nefer have been a great plus to the scene and both have put some serious blocks to the building.
I think it's time for you to move on, make use of your skills and imagination and put that to something unique, something of your own, something that one day can grow big unlike L2 C6 which will only grow smaller at the future.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Nefer on February 05, 2017, 08:12:43 PM
I can agree in part with you, exil33t.

However, also speaking with Shyla, my idea would be to create a pack completely private, the reasons are many and some are obvious. I do not want to influence any decision to the other users, so now we will wait a bit of time and we will see how the poll end... giving us an idea of what the users want today.

The idea of returning as before to develop sources in a completely open source i can say it's difficult, but not impossibile. Mainly because both me and Shyla have less time and in any case we would be even more motived if behind our work there is a remuneration, also if it's small.

Please for the new users on the forum, after the vote write your opinion with a new post. Thank you

/discuss
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: pauler on February 05, 2017, 08:20:14 PM
I am not really informed of what's happening lately in the l2j scene or l2 in general, but I believe the only reason to work on this project at this point is nostalgia. Lineage 2 community has surely shrunk over the years, and there already is a fair share of projects, especially for interlude. If nostalgia is not a factor for you, maybe you should start a project of something else, maybe a standalone game for example. It's a lot of work, and since this is a propably a hobby for you it's going to take a while, but it will surely keep you entertained, and you are going to learn a thing or two along the way. Or find another ready game to and try to write the server-side code for it. Or if you decide to keep working on l2, why don't you fork acis and evolve it the way you want from that point on. Whatever you decide to do, I wish you best of luck.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Crytek on February 05, 2017, 08:45:27 PM
I hope to have updated frozen then acis s.., i hope you team revive this project and make best on the market))
And make not free !!!

PS use ipb or xenforo forum  now is 2017 !
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Akken on February 05, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
Hello Shyla, hope you remember me old friend :) .. Its because of me we had good connection until i dont remember what happened and you kicked me from forums etc.. Well i voted for private pack , i would pay what it takes to continue this work .. People say ACIS ACIS and shits.. your pack was and it is more stable for my opinion.. There are many haters cause of maxcheaters and acis.. yea tryskell does a good job.. but yea i see more results on frozen.. i am using still your last rev , problems? yea it had but not as many critical as acis.. If you go private count me in since i support it from the first minute of the forum was created back in the years :)

Yours , Akken

P.S i hope you will remember me as Nefer, nefer though kept me in contacts and chatted some times :)
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: protoftw on February 06, 2017, 01:20:06 AM
Hello guys,

First of all,I've been using frozen and all I can say is that it's a user-friendly ,easy to handle and a great pack to start a server..Ofcourse there are changes that need to happen but as we all know , you can't have something completely perfect in a short time..Everything needs its time.

Secondly and more important, choosing to go private in my opinion is wrong.All projects nowdays are private..There are many reasons to do that and I totally understand that (protecting your work etc.).Working on it and offering it to people free may be really harsh for you because anyone can take your work and sell it.But more than that it's the work that matters and the hours you spent everyday on it..Choosing not to go private and work on it and recruit people to work with you and create a stable project and a fully working forum would be better.It needs time , reputation but also it needs cooperation and understanding..So,going free I think it will help you grow a better community that really cares about l2jfrozen..Forum members and staff needs to be really good in order to make a really nice team of many people who will be able to offer their services..Even if it's a simple npc creation, it doesnt matter because in the end you will know that people are trying to help you and your project.

In conclusion,the choice is clearly yours and we all respect that..Do not forget that..Make sure that before reading all these replies and checking the vote poll is not going to influence your judgment.You need to count on us and we need to count on you.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Sokin on February 06, 2017, 11:15:12 AM
For the people that vote on the poll please leave a comment here trying to argue their decision.

It is important that you give us more informations that will help us to take the best decision for the future of this project.

Greetings,
Nefer

After 10 Years + of Hard Work On Many Lineage 2 Projects I Think L2JFrozen is The Best European Interlude Free Pack Around The World With Many Options Inside For All Kind of Servers.I Have Worked-Used On L2JFrozen Pack This Kind Of Servers Mid Rate,High Rate,Stucksubs and all Was Successfull and Effort to me and my players nice memories.So Because This pack Have many Basic Options[Workable 90%] for Many Kind of Servers i Believe that We must work for one month to make all the configs of this project 100% Workable and without basic bugs.After this work one small update for visual-Html options can be added because we run on 2017 where all lineage 2 funs have a preconfigured pack with basic npcs imported.Also a new Library must opened from l2jfrozen team To Add All The Reworks There with official posts.Afters this Simple 3 Steps pack can run with Revisions and some Free -Premium - Vip Packs with Low Prices [0-10-20Euro] Lifetime.

1.Rework All The Configs to be 100% Workable.Don't Add new.
2.Some Visual-Html Updates For All The Basic Features You Offer To Us.
3.New library with All Reworks Inside.

Good Luck And Welcome Back.Grats to all www.l2jfrozen.com team who offer to us all this years all of his work for Free and Give to All of Us a Nice and Stable Pack.For the Upcoming Reason i can Work for free like Hard Tester to Give Some Help Back.

English Vol 1.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: vangog on February 06, 2017, 12:56:31 PM
Oh, how glad I am that you're back! Your Interlude project believe not one of the best, and the best of the free! I fixed a few bugs with your last audit, but have not been able to summon shadow make operating a passive skill vampirik, was very surprised when I found it. I hope we will continue to maintain and develop a pet project l2jFrozen, sorry for my english. It is a pity that there are no developers are from Russia.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: pedra on February 07, 2017, 05:55:24 AM
I believe a private package with frequent fixes is the best option.

Interlude is alive, we need fixes for all bugs found, to be able to offer fun without bugs, in our servers.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: vangog on February 07, 2017, 01:13:07 PM
Work will continue in the repository svn (https://app.assembla.com/spaces/L2jFrozenInterlude/subversion/source/HEAD/datapack), or will change?
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Nefer on February 07, 2017, 01:29:35 PM
Work will continue in the repository svn (https://app.assembla.com/spaces/L2jFrozenInterlude/subversion/source/HEAD/datapack), or will change?

We will give more infos next days, don't have hurry!  ;)
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Kααy on February 08, 2017, 01:48:58 AM
i love this project !  ;) thx for back
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: baronx5 on February 10, 2017, 05:16:44 PM
Hey,  so glad l2jfrozen back again ,, ;D

lineage 2 never die many of players like the game but all are looking for clear server to get back for old days,
the problem not on the server side its all from the administrators .

In my side i want to work on the project because i want to refresh my knowledge on programming languages {Java,PHP,HTML,CSS}  8)

Sorry my English is bad.
Welcome back to all members.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Iridescent on February 12, 2017, 03:38:53 PM
We wait frozen to get ressurected!
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: valentin on February 13, 2017, 06:19:12 PM
It Takes a private pack Without bugs, clean java
'at the moment, it is a trash'
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: AhmetGoLd on February 14, 2017, 12:32:36 AM
l2j frozen was my best pack i have used in 2010 in my server that i had 350+ ppl online and had 2500 evro in a month from donations. so frozen pack i think is nearly the best pack i ever seen in C6 so i want to keep moving on this pack and open another big server to ressurect the Interlude client. I have lot of imagination, and also iam perfectionist to make things the best.. i will continue with this pack and i want from admins to continue fix the issues and bugs. We all will help find more bugs and make the frozen pack perferct! ;)
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Kuzuv on February 14, 2017, 10:01:57 AM
Frozen is good pack, when your hands are not from the ass.  :)
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Bandit on February 14, 2017, 01:37:21 PM
Hi all. Anyone have Geodate Frozen last rev?
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Kuzuv on February 14, 2017, 02:08:13 PM
Hi all. Anyone have Geodate Frozen last rev?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6wiwa9uy2ty7zf5/interlude+geodata.rar
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: valentin on February 14, 2017, 04:20:23 PM
l2j frozen was my best pack i have used in 2010 in my server that i had 350+ ppl online and had 2500 evro in a month from donations. so frozen pack i think is nearly the best pack i ever seen in C6 so i want to keep moving on this pack and open another big server to ressurect the Interlude client. I have lot of imagination, and also iam perfectionist to make things the best.. i will continue with this pack and i want from admins to continue fix the issues and bugs. We all will help find more bugs and make the frozen pack perferct! ;)


I mean what is the general idea, not trifles...

if you want a low or mid rate, you must make a clean gneneral in java
Some codes rather pointless,
producing various errors in game,this pack is made just for pvp sv
I Entered the game, and had the same item invenotry 300 , last  rev,
can you give me an explanation,I felt bad that moment in :/
a promising start to open again l2jfrozen,reconstruction is needed in this pack, do not forget this
if we want a competition with  l2jacis need  urgently visible change,and radical
we delude ourselves with sweet words
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Bandit on February 16, 2017, 08:41:13 AM
Hi all. Anyone have Geodate Frozen last rev?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6wiwa9uy2ty7zf5/interlude+geodata.rar
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Mordor on February 18, 2017, 01:28:14 AM
Guys some one have work all clan hall siege please?  :'(
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: valentin on February 18, 2017, 10:30:49 PM
if you break a hair, it produces a cataclysm
this pack is dead from all views,
i'm sorry to say,
it is only good for beginners to learn admin panel
but more much impossible,this pack is a lost cause

Some java scripts have surpluses,a typical chinese work,quick and shoddy work
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: fulmoke on February 19, 2017, 04:49:56 AM
"this pack is dead from all views"

Im sorry... but.. hi www.l2jfrozen.com its back

for me i use rev 1004 and is the best.. old but nice... bugs? sure! but who dont have? acis hate frozen do u know why?
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Dagger on February 20, 2017, 08:23:12 PM
As the bird fenix Frozen resurge welcome again !!!

 ;)
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Kuzuv on February 20, 2017, 09:25:24 PM
As the bird fenix Frozen resurge welcome again !!!

 ;)
i have acis 365, and frozen 1132. My choise is 1132. For pvp servers all time frozen will be better.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Dagger on February 21, 2017, 07:25:29 PM
Acis is good dp but unfortunately its developers are delirious as to the modifications of the code currently in the revision changed the L2PcInstance by Player? The only thing they know how to do is change names now since l2jfrozen has been erased hopefully they will not follow in their steps...

I have revision 1132 customized later on I will post mods for this revision here greetings
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: valentin on February 21, 2017, 07:46:08 PM
l2jfrozen must recover lost ground
do not forget That l2 cleaver was a combination l2jfrozen, restructured in java,but pretty good developer
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: VanGon on February 26, 2017, 04:35:29 PM
Well hello and good afternoon , before i go to main talking let me say the importance of the pack for me..

I have been developing a server for around 3 years without opening around ur pack namely making small changes , adding/removing and etc and also importing stuff.. I really appreciate the work you do and its rly attractive to have such a team make a comeback from the 'dead'.. L2JFROZEN is pack which allows you to costumize stuff easily , giving u access to everything you want through simple methods (configs) and even making supereasy to import anything you want(add costum stuff and etc).

I voted for the paid subscription for the following reasons:

1--> You guys worked ur asses off these last years and made this project a success.. I can say that l2jfrozen is the best free open source l2j project that is around for the interlude client
2-->All this time u didnt get money and worked too hard to make a stable and collective pack
3-->You deserve to make it private earning you some extra money
4-->Making private means more time for u to gather all the fixes in one changelog and also work on it when u have ur free time instead of getting spammed about every little change and help anyone needs.
5-->You need to rework on some things such as reuse for skills/new npc's for the pack/commands and etc that have changed/updated since u last "closed" and the privacy will help u as long as you have an inner circle to help you out !
6-->Giving this awesome project away for free again will be a waste of ur time cause all you do is pleasure 1k ppl but you lose ur own personal time doing it!

Thanks for opening again im definetely going to keep up with l2jfrozen ,
VanGon
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: silvio40 on March 02, 2017, 02:14:27 AM
It is pleasing to read back to you.

Whatever decision you make, I will continue to follow you.

Even today I use Frozzen on my live server.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Probocis on March 03, 2017, 09:40:41 AM
The private way is great to your pack because it will give a chance to be payed for your work, but you have to help other users that helped this pack by implementing aCis style of pay method and free method.
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Nefer on March 03, 2017, 10:27:36 AM
The private way is great to your pack because it will give a chance to be payed for your work, but you have to help other users that helped this pack by implementing aCis style of pay method and free method.
Yes, that's for sure. We always helped people that helped us! ;)
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: srann1k on March 20, 2017, 07:32:06 AM
i love l2jfrozen its  nearly best project  it was it is and it will be the best  .   interlude is not dead guys we just need good  added codes in java . such  as 1) VIP seller   with  changable  xp, sp, spoil, adena.   2) auto mana potions.   3) etc,,, bug fixes.    i will donate  and will pay for  DEV job but please dont make it  too expensive.   im using this pack since  2012 so dont thing im newbie here :P  ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: smfc on April 04, 2017, 01:24:21 PM
Hello
I i was looking in to private server making and got to this forum somehow ^^ As a complete newbe in this I would argue that best way to market your server packs would be online shop where base - clean pack with no addons, no custom items, nothing, just clear server that can run with no bugs is free but everything else goes for minor price - lets say customer wants °npc buffer ok  = $$

and so on, every npc, every event could go as separate sale but stability of core pack could be tested for free
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: xFranky on July 12, 2017, 09:43:15 PM
Good evening to all,

I am personally a very old member of L2JFrozen and I purticipate in a lot of pack fixes, bug reports, make new features that could be included in the L2JFrozen, such as KVN mode and I have worked many years with only L2JFrozen up to this day.

I personally study IT programming in the UK, where I would like to get a qualification on Game designing and developing.

My opinion, even though is too late, is if you still keep it a public project, following the ideal of Linux.
Linux is an open source operating system which is supported by millions of users and at least 800 users. Everyone can be developer on that operating system. If there is a virus, it can be updated to the operating system within 1 day.

The reason why I mentioned Linux is, since you do not have that much time to work on the project, the money you may sell the project wouldn't give you the same protection with really good projects worked for longer time than yours. Since you don't have that much time, you can still spend your personal time and have the other users to work on this project or pack. When a member of L2JFrozen creates something such as security feature, it can be pasted here, where you can filter it, maybe improve it and include it in the pack. With this way, the project, or pack can be improved within a sort time of period.

Therefore, if you get and follow the same philosophy and theory of how Linux have become a successful OS, you may get back all the trust of the users, including being the best pack that will be out there, including public or private projects.

This is personally my opinion.

Kind regards,
xFranky
Title: Re: Lineage 2 World
Post by: Nefer on October 24, 2017, 10:42:24 AM
As the poll said we will go to a Private pack with different options:

* Compiled pack
* Compiled pack + source
* New updates every month



/topic closed